Monday, February 8, 2016

What about those 1633 posts ?

Viewers may remember that 1633 posts of Gr B and Gr C cadres were ordered to be be transferred out from West Bengal charge. After a massive hue and cry from that region Board maintained status quo and formed one after another committee to look into the justification of this. JCA, West Bengal observed a number of demonstrations/ sit in dharnas against it. The current position about the matter has never been stated by association.
As per sources, the high power committee suggested in favour of the decision of phasing out posts from this region.
Will JCA West Bengal inform the members about the progress or any future agitation ?

67 comments:

Anonymous said...

West Bengal Region is over staffed comparing to its number of assessees and tax revenue. Its justified that phasing 1633 out of WB is obsolutely justified.

Anonymous said...

How can one say that its overstaffed, 50% of staff are from outside West Bengal, take those staff and there will be abundant ratio of promotion to staff. Also, please don't speak garbage, if u don't know the facts. Plz correct ur facts n findings before making such a pathetic comment.

Anonymous said...

All india leadership functioning as local unit leadership other all india leaders also supporting the same

Anonymous said...

अब प्रमोशन भूलकर कुछ और बात करो
सभी ITO कलेक्शन में व्यस्त है
किसी को भी प्रमोशन नहीं चाहिए

Anonymous said...

Definitely it is overstaffed. If it is compared with other charge in respect of sanctioned strength to working strength, it would be cleared.

Anonymous said...

As per 7:48 central board of direct taxes and tax department should be handed over to state government.

Anonymous said...

In mumbai ito's are busy in collection. Ito's will be able to spare time for promotion matters only after 31st march. CHQ knows this very well. Hence jca will also not talk of promotion till 31 march. Why to blame jca only our members are also to be blamed for not pressurising jca.

Anonymous said...

The CBDT has discriminated WB region and deprived all group C officials in comparison to other region and the leaders of ITEF are cheating with the members.

Anonymous said...

In 2001 CR, WB charge able to get more number of posts it deserved due to then JCA leadership. Now the extra belly it is being corrected.

Anonymous said...

In ap región, 2001 restructure t.as waiting for iti promotion. .what abvt wb?

Anonymous said...

7th & 8th Feb 2016, Meeting of CWC of CHQ ITEF has been held at Kochi, Kerala where justification of posts for Bengal has clarified by the leader of Bengal Circle. it has been assured by the House that erstwhile sanctioned posts never be trf out from one charge to another. President of the meeting also assured that he will not allow such trf of posts.It was also decided at ITEF Gouhati Conf and at CWC Meeting at Gajiabad that to maintain the solidarity, phasing out of posts those who were been sanctioned prior to restructuring will not be aalowed. therefore, now CHQ ITEF pressing hard not to trf otherwise a Nationwise agitational task will be taken by ITEF CHQ. Hope for the Best.

Anonymous said...

despite in some region there is reversion of ITO. ITGOA is not taking any action. In the backdrop of NRP, Administration is playing their game. Why ITGOA is not opposing it? For NRP the JCA left no stone untouched?

Why they are not doing the same thing for Rajeev Mohan Judgement? When they will come forward? When their member will be reverted?

They just only want contribution. Shame to ITGOS CHQ. They only interested in their promotion to ACIT. In some region ITGOA is on the verge of division but all Office bearers are sleeping.

All affected persons should come forward to oppose ITGOA. Stop giving contribution to this selfish association. Bring this office bearer out of the CHQ.

Anonymous said...

Writers of this Blog dont know the observation of Bangalore Cat where it has been ordered that no reversion can be made from ITO consequent upon the NR Parmar review.Reverted Officer may be accommodated against the temporary upgraded ITO posts till their turn will come under the purview of promotion to ITO against the regular vacancies. Under the circumstances it is requested to put the hand on the Ear before running away to any Crow... pl....

Anonymous said...

now i think blog owner has to remind that there was a meeting scheduled of ITGOA delegation.Only then MoM will be published by CHQ

Anonymous said...

Mumbai me NRP ke karan koi bhi revert nahi hoga
kyonki jab tak revert hone walo ke liye sufficient vacancy accumulate nahi ho jati, tab tak review dpc nahi ki jayegi

Anonymous said...

Promotion will take few more months or years so it is better to force for implementation of catch up rule simultaneously other wise implementation of catch up rule will take another years for implementation
NRP ke saath to ye jaldi ho jayega

Anonymous said...

Mumbai me immediate review dpc hona chahiye. ITO order me saf saf likha hota hai ki administrative reason se revert ho sakta hai. Yadi chor galti se raja ban jaye to kya use hamesha ke liye raja man liya jayega. Mumbai admn ko immediate review dpc karna chahiye. Yadi koi ITO revert ho raha ho to use revert karna chahiye. ITEF KO TURNAT IS DISA ME ADMN SE MILNA CHAHIYE. Jabtak NRP ka review dpc nahi hoga tab tak ITO to ACIT ka bhi promotion nahi hoga. Isliye bina revert kiye AC promoion hoga hi nahi.

Anonymous said...

All India seniority kar di jaye

Anonymous said...

Any updates of meeting of CHQ today?????

Anonymous said...

Itef मुंबई में किसी ITO का demotion होने नहीं देगा और बिना demotion के ITO to acit प्रमोशन होगा नहीं। जबकि कुछ बेवक़ूफ़ सोचते है कि पहले ITO to acit promotion से consequential vacancy मिल जाएगी तो revert होने वाले ITO accommodate हो जाएँगे। it's a vicious circle and no one will get promotion

Anonymous said...

ITO to ACIT promotion is not possible without review DPC as per NRP in every region. Whoever is opposing review DPC due to fear of reversion of some officials/officers is actually responsible for delay in ITO to ACIT promotion.

Anonymous said...

NRP CANNOT BE IMPLEMENTED EVEN IN HIS OWN CASE leave aside in the entire charges

Anonymous said...

Any news about secretariat metting of itgoa on 11 feb in delhi

Anonymous said...

Yes, chai, coffee, wafers etc. Etc another resolution.........

Anonymous said...

Supreme Court judgment in various cases are pending for implementation. All judgments such as NRP , Rohtas Bhankhar and Rajiv Mohan shoul be implemented without any further delay to avoid any further litigation.

Anonymous said...

Persons who favour Rajiv Mohan Judgment implementation in inter-se-seniority instead NRP, why dont you go in court, waste your money and time with last cry and loose face

Anonymous said...

Some Pondits are telling that Bengal Charge is overstaff considering upon the S/Strength and W/Strength in respect of others charges. It is needless to mentioned here that there are so many posts after Cadre Re Structuring, 2014 are lies vacant in differents Regions even after holding the DPC 2015. Are the Pondits, those who are telling that Bengal is Over Staff, will say that the said differents Regions also Over Staff as so many newly created posts lies vacant there ? It is out of place to mention here that no vacant posts are lies vacant in Bengal after holding the DPC of 2015. So, The Pondits of this Side are requested to write their comments with full responsibility otherwise the people of Bengal Income Tax will not spare them.

Anonymous said...

It seems there is no possibility of acit promotion upto march 2015. Bhaskar has lost bargaining power with cbdt
In metting held with board chairman he doesn't speak and if the chairman asks for comments, he only assures chairman that after speaking to jca secretaries he will officialy communicate.Itna late latif ko kisne grneral secretary banaya.Its the fault of us members only who have chosen him.

Anonymous said...

now chq has appointed dynamic Raghavendra Singh to handle dpc in upsc, now you can expect promotion in one week. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Anonymous said...

IRS association has written a letter to board chairman opposing sanction of 200 seats for acit promotion which is against 50:50 criteria for direct and promotee. Now there again will be calculation of vacancies extending dpc to another one year.

Anonymous said...

great

Anonymous said...

some members were going to resign from ITGOA due to its inaction. what happened? Anyone resigned? be mute spectator and suffer.

Anonymous said...

Sab time barring collection me busy he, will think of promotion after march 2016.

Anonymous said...

pl refer to the case of Administrator of Union Territory of Daman and Diu & Ors. Vs. R.D. Valand, 1995 Supp (4) SCC 593. In the said case the employee had made a representation in the year 1985 for promotion to the post of Assistant Engineer w.e.f. 1977. The said representation was rejected on 08/10/1986. Thereafter he filed application before the Tribunal in March, 1990 i.e. after four years. The application was rightly rejected as barred by time. In paragraph 4 of the judgment the Apex Court has noticed the relevant dates which are as follows:
"4. We are of the view that the Tribunal was not justified in interfering with the stale claim of the respondent. He was promoted to the post of Junior Engineer in the year 1979 with effect from 28-9-1972. A cause of action, if any, had arisen to him at that time. He slept over the matter till 1985 when he made representation to the Administration. The said representation was rejected on 8-10-1986. Thereafter for four years the respondent did not approach any court and finally he filed the present application before the Tribunal in March 1990. In the facts and circumstances of this case, the Tribunal was not justified in putting the clock back by moire than 15 years. The Tribunal fell into patent error in brushing aside the question of limitation by observing that the respondent has been making representations from time to time and as such the limitation would not come in his way."
Similarly cbdt has no power to revise the seniority from 1986 onwards .All regions except gujarat should fight the case from the point of limitation.

Anonymous said...

Respected SG
pl ensure that in the guise of implementation of parmar the seniority other groups such as ict sc,st should not be disturbed.If board wants to change the seniority of icts let rajeev mohan case may be applied.It will be fair.Somebody told that if DOPT brings modification of order dt 3 3 08 as advised by supremecourt it will solve all the problems.

Anonymous said...

In Secretary to Government of India & Ors. Vs. Shivram Mahadu Gaikwad, 1995 Supp (3) SCC 231, the employee was employed as Daily Wager (casual labour) being last appointed on 24/3/1986, was discharged from service on 07/10/1986. He filed the O.A. in the Tribunal in the year 1990. In the facts of the above case while holding that the application was barred by limitation the Apex Court observed as under:
"2. When we turn to the judgment of the Tribunal we find that there is no mention about the question of limitation even though it stared in the face. It would immediately occur to anyone that since the order of discharge was of 7-10-1986 and the application was filed in 1990, it was clearly barred by limitation unless an application for condoning the delay was made under Section 21(3) of the Administrative Tribunals Act. No such application was in fact made."
Do anybody thinking ofnon applicability of parmar due to limitation.

Anonymous said...

F.No.A.32013/02/2012-Ad.V1
Government of India
Ministry of Finance
Department of Revenue
Central Board of Direct Taxes

New Delhi, the 13th June, 2014
ORDER NO. £2 QF 2014

Consequent upon revision in the seniority in the grade of Inspectors
and ITOs of Kanpur region by the Pr.CCIT, UP(West) & Uttarakhand Region,
the name of Shri Rajeev Mohan, ITO, Kanpur has been inserted in the All
India Inter-se Seniority List of ITOs as on 01.01.2009. The inter-se seniority
of Shri Rajeev Mohan, ITO, Kanpur is fixed at Seniority No. 1478-A in the
All India Inter-se Seniority List of ITOs as on 01.01.2009.
2. The fixation of Seniority No.1478-A in the All India Inter-se Seniority
of ITOs as on 01.01.2009 in respect of Shri Rajeev Mohan, ITO, Kanpur
is subject to final outcome of the Review Petition to be filed by the
Department against the Order dated 11/03/2014 of the Hon'ble Apex Court.

(Brij Mohan)
Under Secretary to the Government of India

After this thereview petion filed by CBDT was dismissed by Supremecourt with a clear reasoning.

Anonymous said...

Minutes of Extended Secretariat Meeting of ITGOA held on 15.07.2014 at New Delhi
one of the points discussed in the meeting is as under
In reply to the submission of Com. Rajesh D. Menon that the seniority of Shri Rajeev Mohan
should be revised properly, it was informed that the seniority of Shri Rajeev Mohan has been revised inpursuance of the Court order and review petition before the Supreme Court is being filed by the Board.

what exactly it means.is chq is against rajeev mohan

Anonymous said...

Mr. Menon why not written for the implementation of Rohtas Bhankar.

Anonymous said...

Is simple income tax sleeping..or dead?

Anonymous said...

It seems no one is interested in promotion.No enthusiasm for promotion among members of 2014-15 dpc. Take some bold steps freinds. Don't expect much from bhaskar and team.March 2016 is coming to an end and there is no sign of any dpc.Even CHQ leaders are doing nothing since they also know that members will be agitated again only after march 2016, tab tak kuch collection aur aram kar lo.

Anonymous said...

What this Rohtas Bhankar is all about?

Anonymous said...

When SC/ST members qualified in departmental examinations with 5 grace marks, will equally put with general candidates if promotion affected. This will be implemented from 1997 it self according to five members constitutional bench of Honble Supreme Court.

Anonymous said...

Then what about catch up rule?

Anonymous said...

They will be promoted against sc or st vacancies.

Anonymous said...

Can anybody guide me about the likely expenses of going to CAT and whether an individual alone can approach CAT

Anonymous said...

They will eligible for the promotion against sc/st vacancies.

Anonymous said...

Please watch ITO to ACIT promotion effected by Board with footnote that the reserved candidates consider against unreseved candidates. Lower level promotions issued by all Regions are not considered the above points.

Anonymous said...

Any hope of dpc 2014-15 within march? Seems distant possibility. Leave 2015-16, 2016-17 even dpc for 2014-15 will not be held within march 2016. No follow up with upsc.

Anonymous said...

why WB should be at the centre stage always for no rhyme or reason whatsoever. It's share in revenue generation is abysmal and grossly disproportionate to the staff deployed. for everybody's kind info, central govt. offices are not run on 'KHAIRATI....' basis. The only yardstick should be revenue potential, assessee base etc. This is both rational & scientific. the economic powerhouses of indian economy such as Maharastra, Gujurat, TN, Karnataka should instead get more workforce to augment revenue.

Anonymous said...

Eligible for the promotion against the reserved vacancies of SC and ST

Anonymous said...

Atleast the general secretary should have the courtesy to inform members about 2014-15 dpc, the file lying with upsc for more than 2 months. Why time and again members has to remind bhaskar for updating members of development of dpc. No updates yet of itgoa secretariat meeting on 11 feb.Or he himself is busy in attaining personal benefits from board.

Anonymous said...

Sir, You are telling about revenue potentiality such as Maharastra, Gujarat etc... Perhaps You dont know about the File transfer of potential Corporate Assessee like as State Bank of India, Indian Oil etc from Bengal to Maharastra, even now Coal Mine Files also being transferred to differents Regions which are exclusively Political decision made by the anti Bengal Political Party. Now, if I ask you to revert back the files which have been lifted from Bengal now & earlier and thereafter compute the revenue potentiality, would you happy with it ? I think, before passing such comments, any person should know The Indian Dirty Parliamentary Politics which are always Regional since freedom of our Country. Mind it, our Region is Politically victimized One.

Anonymous said...

Bengal is not politically victimized. The setback to WB in all aspects is due to the people's work culture, communism and geographical location etc., At early British period, Calcutta was their capital. But due to the above reasons it was shifted to Delhi and Mumbai. TATA was thrown out from Bengal due various conflicts among Bengal political parties. That's why nobody wants to invest or start industry in Bengal. Its the result of their own karma of the Bengal people.

Anonymous said...

what bengal thinks today india will think tomorrow. Bengal possesses the supreme quality of think tank, gray matter in a bulk form. Maximum people will have no affinity towards such think tank as they will be caught red handed.

Anonymous said...

first bengal people should tell how they are becoming seniors and becoming Acs when compared to other regions

Anonymous said...

Stop fighting on bengal issue, think about larger issue of promotion to acit, group admin bhi promotion ke issue pe silent ho gaya, no updates

Anonymous said...

Simpleincometax are you sleeping? Zzzz

Anonymous said...

DEAR SIR,, You are telling about the work culture of Bengal. It is a very clear history to our Country that Why TATA Motors run away from Bengal. Communist Party of Bengal has tried their Best to restore the same. But unfortunately it was not matirialise. It was a sucydial politics of Bengal. But why Assessment Jurisdiction of State Bank of India, Indian Oil etc have gone away to others Regions ? they were/are Govt Organization. The then Central Government has decided it for transferring the Bengal"s Revenue to others Region. Is it a very Good Culture ? is it not dirty politics ? are the Corporate/Public Sector/Undertakings Files have been transferred from Bengal for Geographical location ? can You prove it ? Pl dont accuse the Communist Party because they never makes any back stab & never played any duel role like all others Parliamentary Political Party. It will be better to think about the incidents of JNU University, why Vemula committed sucycide, why Kanaiha still in the Jail, why CBI simply sleeping inspite of several financial scam in Bengal....all are related with the dirty Indian Politics. We have to come out from this culture otherwise we are all will fight against one another, like you. And as such You the People THOUGH YOU ARE MY CO WORKER depriving us and will tell OWN KARMO................ THANKS COLLEAGUE.....

Anonymous said...

It is irony of fate that we are fighting within the ambit of our family. Friends we are under the same umbrella and colleagues also. Let us find some concrete steps so that demands can be fulfilled without further delay. Remember we are reaching towards 31 st March rapidly.

Anonymous said...

JCA seems to be sleeping. Big question is whether dpc will be held within march. What about promise of RS and even finance minister for dpc for 2014-15 to 2016-17 within march.Do you see any hope. Or it was just a false promise by finance minister to end the agitation. If it is so, then why bhaskar is silent.

Anonymous said...

The main demand for the ongoing suspended agitation is ITO to ACIT promotions. Had the JCA not started the agitation, by this time we could have got 2014-15 ACIT promotion posts and may be 2015-16 in pipeline. Because of the JCA's agitation and inaction, till date 2014-15 ACIT promotions could not materialized. There is a long silence maintained by our great Com. B.B. Till now nobody knows when at-least 2014-15 promotions will come. Did JCA leaders appraised the Revenue Secretary of the current position or met him once as he directed earlier? Members are in great frustration. Dear leaders please note there is a limit for every thing and don't test the patience of members and act fast and do the necessary thing at the earliest.

Anonymous said...

The ITGOA leader will come forward when the future of their members will ruin by the Administration and they come to show sympathy.

Anonymous said...

Simple income tax....living or dead

Anonymous said...

As per the ITGOA, JS(admn) has met JS(UPSC) on 24.02.2016. It has been agreed to hold DPC for RY 2014-15 as per proposal pending before UPSC subject to all the conditions of DPC are fulfilled. A final query in regard to the shortcomings of the proposal is supposed to be sent to CBDT on 25.02.2016. As regards the court cases, the Dept has prepared the reply tobe filed to the Pr. Bench of CAT.

Anonymous said...

It goes without saying that Mr Bhaskar is an incompetent person and henceforth we should not expect this person to do anything positive about ITO to ACIT promotion. Simply this person doesn't deserve at all to hold the office of General Secretary of ITGOA.

Anonymous said...

Sir,
I am a newly recruited inspector from WB posted in Orissa. I am a single child of my parents. In view of the posts being taken out of West Bengal and ICT on hold. Can I hope to return to West Bengal in near future? Please reply

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