Saturday, February 1, 2014

Agitation continues till CBDT considers ITEF proposal on allocation of posts

Following is being published from the website of ITEF Mumbai circle.
"The Member (P), CBDT, has assured the ITEF leadership in the meeting held on 16th & 17th January, 2014 at New Delhi and also in her meeting with us in Mumbai on 29th January, that the issue of allocation of posts will be discussed with us before taking a final decision. She also informed us that the Board meeting in this regard is inconclusive and once the CBDT comes to a decision the matter will be discussed with the ITEF. We are hopeful that the CBDT will keep its word and hold discussion with us before finalising the allocation of posts. The ongoing agitational programme will be called off only after an agreement is reached with the CBDT. Do not believe rumours....Continue the agitation in totality..... "
The above article is posted on ITEF Mumbai Cirlce site on today, 01.02.2014

43 comments:

Unknown said...

Agitation for whom sake? No agitation when T.As not allowed to write ITI exam till 2008..no agitation when Recruitment rules for ITI not notified even today (even a young man joined today in the Department knows ITEF works for Stenos)..no agitation when advance increments declined to Sr.TAs..and finally no agitation or not a single demand for conversion of DR posts to PR..

Unknown said...

Now it is time that Allocation of post will be decide by the CBDT only without delay any time. No need any meeting with ITEF and ITGOA.

Unknown said...

If the CBDT will hold any meeting with ITEF and ITGOA more time will be pass out. So now it is time that allocation of post will be done immediately without delay any time and a deadline May be decide by the CBDT for holding the DPC.

Anonymous said...

Allocation or posts must be done immediately and consideration of allocation for additional posts only.

Unknown said...

There were three demands of ITEF in 2002 that TAs to get 4500/- pay scale, ITIs for 6500/- pay scale and 7500/- for ITOs..though ITI and ITO scale were granted from 01.04.2004..TAs were left out..not surprisingly, no demand for TAs till today..where is the ratio of 3:1 between Ministerial staff and Stenos? It is 6:1 at all India level and in some states, it is 10:1 but ITEF is gracious enough to allow them 3:1 ratio..and we wont surprise if ITEF demands for rollback of removal of date of passing slot..because we all know to whom they work for...

Anonymous said...

What Mr.Chandrasekhar commented in this block is grossly untrue. I joined the dept on 1.3.99 and passed the ITI exam in the year 2002 (in Chennai). I am yet to get the promotion. Even my seniors who passed the ITI exam in the year 2000 are waiting. Is this the way the stenos are benefitted? Please speak factually.

Anonymous said...

It is the GENERAL who decides when , where and how much troops to be deployed based on his experiene and intelligence as well as expertise reports. Now it is CBDT to take firm decision ignoring selfish Association viz.ITEF , ITGOA, otherwise history will term the Board as incapable and coward.

CR is not a welfare measure as a whole , it is meant for reducing workload where it has become unmanageable. What is the use of giving more manpower where not required. In which way that will ease the duties of staff who are overburdened if not provided relief by enhancing manpower. If adequate manpower calculated as per systematic formula is not provided againt the problem of hiring contract workers will arise. To settle the issue board has to act as a dictator.

ajit kumar said...

There is not agitation in Bihar at list. ITEF central HQr is only thinking about big states. Without knowing the agenda of demands, even in their website it is not written clear cut and just saying It is not with sub committee 1 or core committee. Are they making fool us? I think we should immediately stop giving them subscription. Why they have not make a single demand/agitation for conversion of DR posts to PR, when department is facing huge stagnation. It should be at least be converted to DR only when no departmental pass candidate left out.

Anonymous said...

IN MY VIEW ITEF NOW BECAME USELESS AND FUNCTIONLESS....THEY GET ACTIVATED ONLY AT THE TIME OF TRANSFER AND POSTINF ONLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THEIR NEAR AND DEAR.....IT IS WORKING ONLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF A GROUP OF EMPLOYEES.... I REQUEST ALL LLLLLLLLLL.....THE HONEST MEMBERS TO IMMEDIATELY RESIGN FROM THE MEMBERSHIP OF ITEF AND STOP THEIR CONTRIBUTION....

Anonymous said...

ITEF PROPOSAL IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO SMALLER CIRCLES SINCE IT IS VERY MUCH PARTIAL AND BIASED. IT IS MADE FOR THE BENEFIT OF LARGER CIRCLES LIKE W.B. MUMBAI ETC. EVERY BODY SHOULD KEEP IT IN THEIR MIND SUCH CIRCLES HAVE NOT MADE PATENT THE AGITATION RIGHT, SMALLER CIRCLES MAY ALSO DO THE SAME IF INJUSTICE WILL BE DONE WITH THEM ONCE AGAIN LIKE EARLIER RESTRUCTURING.

Anonymous said...

For ur information, most leaders of ITEF n itgoa are from ministerial staff or direct inspectors, dear Bro think again before posting your comments.

K.N.Purushothaman said...

Congats Mr. Chandra Sekhar. You are absolutely correct. ITEF is the association by the STENOS, for the STENOS ( though member strength is mainstream cadres) . In Kerala OG steno joined in 2010 and passed ITI in 2012 got promoted as ITI in 2013. Around 12 to 15 Stenos promoted as ITIs on just completing 3 years, leaving behind 1999 direct UDCs. The grievances of ministerial cadres are immaterial for ITEF. Now it is STENOS' Department at ITI and ITO level.

Anonymous said...

Friends by posting anti ITEF/itgoa comments, do u think that u r working against yourself because u r part of yit. If in the coming time our platform losees its strength, who will suffer ? Pls think if no earth beneath

Anonymous said...

Those who are criticising ITEF are thankless guys. They don't know how much we in IT department enjoying the fruits of struggles got by ITEF for the benefit of its members.

Anonymous said...

Because of strong platform who got benefit. Near and Dear ones of local leaders. Local leaders enjoy the benefit of pay without work.National level leaders get proximity with political leadership (need not to name the party, yesterday's MTS also knows and also the reason for blindly supporting kolkatta charge)

Has ITEF or ITGOA able to get more benefits from 1% incentive. Did it take any initiative to stop misuse of operational vehicles. When ever local leaders demand for their personal use or pick up/drop of near and dear they get the benefit and so they don't open their mouth. venicles are denied even physically handicaped inspectors but you can spot department vehicles in picnic spots on holidays with families of.......
How long they can fool in the name of mobile phone, m/bike etc. How many of our staff are wiyhout handset? BSNL has provided us 3G sim but with 2G facilities. Have you taken up this issue? If taken, how long will it take to provide us 3G services.

They need Stronger platform to build their image, not to build the welbeing of staff. Our leaders claim we did not suffer any pay cuts furing strikes. Compare the banking staff whenever they loss in the name of pay cut for strike, they get four times more than wahat they lost. So I request our leaders not to beg the administration for such a small things like 'not to cut salary'. This resembles a begging attitude and administration assumes that it is all powerful and dictating terms through you to us and taking much of cream themselves.

Unknown said...

Heartening to see Mr.Purushotham Das is back..pls keep posting sir..though we cannot get our lost opportunities back..people like you can encourage and guide our junior colleagues....there is a great amount of discussion going on everyday in the rank and file of department on your frank and fair comments..regards..

Anonymous said...

"ITEF is the association by the STENOS, for the STENOS" -- 100% true.

-Akhilesh Srivastava,
Lucknow

Anonymous said...

If the present agitaton results reduction in any of the charges which they believe is at reasonable position as per committee reccommendation. The consequences will adversely affect the associations rather than department. Local leaders in charge of those states will lose respect and they will be abused (ofcourse, not infront of them) They will be laughed at whenever they propose anything related service matters. In most of the charges they already facing the heat. It is not good. Central leadership should think over it for the sake of their own survival.

m dang said...

Allocation seems to be on measured lines.it ought to be approved immediately

Anonymous said...

Many friends seem to think that stenos enjoy all the benefits. But it is far from truth. In TN charge there are stenos who came here way back during 1996 and qualified ITI exam in 2000, are waiting still for promotion as ITI. They are not getting their well deserved promotion even after a lapse of 18 years of service. Is this what you call special status to stenos?? Pls. think again friends of anti stenos group.

Anonymous said...

ANONYMOUS SAID

ITEF FOR STENOS ONLY WHY WE OTHERS WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN AGITATION

Anonymous said...

My Dear Chandra Sekhar and K.N Purusottaman ji, firstly you all know about rules and laws. The policy adopting in all over not confined with 2-4 states. You all agitate that stenos promoted in 3 years. You all see around all states then agitate.
Exam appearing for right to equal for all employees as steno becoz deptt. conducting only ITO/Ins.
exam.
You are all rival with stenos cadre but after approval of R.R of inspector you all rival with own ministerial cadre brothers when the senior who passed very late from you and got promote. think about this main problem and fight for adoption of policy of deletion of passing quota and this also considered in ITO promotion of queracity of exam passing

Anonymous said...

My dear friend, you are correct. Stenos in AP also waiting for long time for promotion. Some people are quoting some exceptional cases where stenos have got early promotions. But they do not know the actual position as on date on all India basis. They should not take it as regional wise but national wise, it is on par with the Sr.TAs. That is true. No body is bothered about the abolishing of date of passing quota. But everyone who are getting adverse affect should wake up and agitate for justice. Please keep on posing your comments in this blog requesting for retention of date of passing quota dear friends.

K.N.Purushothaman said...

Having enjoyed a lot and still enjoying, stenos have a strong feeling that it is their legitimate right. Only because the Steno leadership, they snatched this as a right, whereas in 95 % of the departments, they are out from the ministerial cadre promotion channels. As ITI post is the promotion channel of ministerial cadres and they have not been promoted as Inspectors even after 18 years service in the line, how can a steno complain ? In many charges they get promoted as ITI from O.G on completion of 3 years ! In a department like Income Tax, the promotion to the Inspector must be done ONLY FROM MINISTERIAL CADRES.

Anonymous said...

As someone blogged earlier that implementation should be done to all cadres simultaneously. May be the Board awaits the Cabinet's approval for Pr.CCIT for simultaneous implementation.
Sridhar, DGL.

Unknown said...

I totally agree with you. Did the stenos who joined government service know that they will get an opportunity in another line? Will they accept if a person is promoted as PS if he is from ministerial cadre. The stenod want to have the best of both the linrs. Selfish. ITEF works only for the stenos.

Anonymous said...

With due respect to my steno brothern, let me explain..here 1989 batch UDCs waiting for promotion as ITO whereas a 1992 stenos became ITO two years back ..and TA (2001 restructure) were allowed to write ITI exam in 2008 whereas dozens of Stenos who came on intercharge after 2002 are carrying their date of passing tag.. the TAs who are very seniors lagging behind..if it goes like this, all the Date of passing slots would be occupied by Stenos after merger of executive assistant..thats why we are asking for abolition of date of passing slot on merger (dopt also made it clear that seniority is the only criterion)..if not, there should not be merger of cadres and ratio to the promotion to ITI should be 6:1...here 1987 UDC retired as Senior TA last year where as Stenos of that batch working as Senior PS..the logic is simple..UDC/LDC have to clear ministerial exam to even get a single promotion whereas Steno need not pass any exam and they can safely become gazetted officers in addition to their green channel i.e., main stream..no department in GOI, no service association in GOI has such an apathy over main cadres..

Unknown said...

Itef central body ke neta aaj kal jasn mana rahe hai.inko shame nahi aati ki pure desh me apne logo ko lada kar khushi ho rahi hai.in neta logo ko sarm nahi hai woh board ke hato me meetings ke naam per thage ja rahe hai.unhe to 24 ghante ka time de kar strike karni chaiye.per ye nahi karenge ye to bik chuke hai.9 months meto kya kya ho jata hai per itax me kuch nahi hota.dhikkar hai aisi union per.

Anonymous said...

Some Stenos are misguiding us by quoting that they are yet to get promotion, I think it is confined to only two regions and in all other regions the stenos got promoted much earlier than their ministerial staff counterparts. Also, in those regions where the stenos didn't get promotion may be due to their inter charge transfers.

Anonymous said...

Right comment. All members should unite for the purpose mentioned by Mr.Purushotham. ITEF must stop partiality and stand for the right of ministerial cadres. It is too late to rectify.

Anonymous said...

My dear friend, we are not complaining, just you people from the beginning complaining against stenos. It may be there in 95% of Departments that stenos are in that line of posts till the end of their service. But in most of the sectors UDCs are also retiring like OS etc. because of stagnation and lack of higher grade posts. In our Department, every one is enjoying promotions then why should stenos be excluded. A group 'd' official can become ITI after clearing necessary exams. Even a casual labour contingent who is being considered for promotion to MTS can also become ITI if he clears the exams. Like that Stenos are also getting promotion after clearing the exam. Secondly , Stenos do have right to become ITI since they are getting it after clearing the required examination. If you feel that stenos are not entitiled for promotion to ITI, then what eligibility ITOs have to become ACIT. Everyone can write whatever they feel. But after considering all the promotion prospects and everything, quotas might have been fixed. At least you must be happy now that all the cadres are merging and everyone will have to go through Executive Assistant. Now, definitely stenos will have to bear some loss since they are being promotion to GP4200 only after 5 years whereas TAs are getting after 3 years. Stenos have definitely right to become ITI. Further, one can verify whether ministerial staff are acting as Leaders of Federation or stenos. As far as I know, most of the union leaders are from Ministerial cadre only.

Anonymous said...

This ITEF shows that they are with lower staff but the fact is that they merely show that they r fighting but they fight only for upper post. thats why inspector has got 4600 GP but TA could not get 2800GP although jr. auditor get that with same exam and qualification. our demand is only on paper as they need our subscription. shame.

Anonymous said...

3 din se Simpleincometax par sannata kyun hai? Is there no more rumours?

Anonymous said...

Dear purosataman, can you see any manual or rules, only ministerial cadre have a right for promotion for inspector. If DR inspector agitate that the we r DR inspector, ministerial/steno have right for promotion then have to promote only O.S, AO and steno promotion.. Then IRS ACIT agitate this right for only IRS. Then think about. delete your seek mentality and make unite atmosphere.

Anonymous said...

Why ITEF Central HQ is silent about 3% promotional increment to OS on or after 01.01.2006?

Is it because Steno, Gr-I, who do not have higher responsibility, hence Board is asked not issue the necessary order?

Please clarify.

sreekumar pazhedath said...

What lesson we learn from earlier restructurings and pay commissions ? A sweeper can have 2-3 promotions to the posts of jamedar/ daftry/gestetner operator / NS/ record keeper/ and LDC. An LDC have chances for promotions to the posts of UDC/UDC with spl pay/TA/HeadClerk/supervisor/ITI/and so on. Promotion means fixation of pay. Now a days, we are waiting maddening years for promotions. Sr TA should get adv increment for clearing ITI exam. Pre restructuring TAs/UDC with spl pay and HCs are post restructuring STAs. All that posts was eligible for adv increments for passing ITI exam (if my memory serves right). Ministerial cadre employees have some stories of loss after each and every sort of so called restructuring or pay commissions. What remarkable gain we achieved in spite of these pains ? For whom we should agitate ? If the sub committees allocate more posts to Kerala than our central HQ demanded, then should we agitate for decreasing that ? At the time of earlier restructuring, this region was the badly affected. At that time how many regions raised their stronger voices in order to support our feeble cries ? 'Unity' has much deeper meanings !

Anonymous said...

Whether the stenos do their work or make politics in the name of union

Unknown said...

Steno Gr III with G P of 2400 is considered for the promotion for the post of EA but the staff car driver Grade II with GP 2400 is not considered even if he has acquired requisite educational qualification for direct recruitment..He is not even permitted to attend any dept examination.This is injustice.

K.N.Purushothaman, Kochi said...

No more brick-batting, those who support the contents of my comments, please communicate - knpurushothaman@yahoo.in - or contact 9495061087/8547000026 - though too late, let us unite to safeguard our legitimate right.Don't bee foolish anymore.

K.N.Purushothaman, Kochi

Anonymous said...

I think puraa depatt.. steno ke pichey pdaa huaa h.... Yr agar itni hi nfrat h steno se to iskaa recruitment band krwaa do.. taaki na rhega baans or na bajegi bansuri... yrr jb ek Gr. D , contigent tak Inspector ban sktaa a to steno kyo nahi.... or rhi baat insp. banney ki to esaa kahi nahi huwaa h ... ki 3 saal me hi stenos Insp. ban gye h... haa cadre review ke time huwaa hogaa... jbki. Steno ka promotion late hota h... ek group d.. ko 5 saal me 4200 gp mi jaati h ... or steno ko to MACP me 2800 GP hi diyaa jaataa h... wo b after 10 year... Isliye iss bhedbhaaw ko khtm kro or cadre review ka wait karo...

Anonymous said...

Views of ITEF should not be considered at all, rather, they should be discouraged and kept out of the process. Other wise they will spoil the whole thing as, it is beyond their understandings. Let CBDT do the best. ITEF unnecessarily wasting our hard earning funds. We don't want an organisation like ITEF should exist . Government should react on this as they are demoralising and keeping away the staffs from their day to day activities, which is directly affecting the revenue of our country.

Anonymous said...

kaun bewkoof hai jo gp D ko 5 yrs me 4200 gp de raha hai. in fact group macp me pure 30 saal me 2800 gp se uper nahi milta.

Anonymous said...

ITEF has done nothing till now for the benefits of the members. Politics of ITEF has ruined so many futures by arranging Reservation to Stenographer in Inspector cadre. This reservation has resulted in deviding the employee unity. Income Tax Department is the only department whrere such a reservation system is implemented .

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